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    The information in this post is specifically for Zathras & Wubba’s King of the Hill Extreme Pool 2017. If you're looking for info about our Original King of the Hill Pool, which allows picking the same team more than once, look here: Original Pool Information


    Zathras & Wubba’s King of the Hill Extreme Pool is an NFL “survivor” pool. Each week you pick one NFL team to win. This pool uses the "No Repeat Teams" option which means once you pick a team with a given entry, you may not pick that same team again for the rest of the regular season. If the pool lasts into the postseason, then the restriction is lifted, and all teams are available for all entries to pick in all postseason weeks.

    Only games which appear in the dropdown list beside each entry are available to select- This year, the first game of week 1 is on Thursday 9/7, and that game is not available to choose. All games of all other weeks are available, including Thursdays.

    To remain alive you must pick a winning team (ties are NOT a win). If you pick a team that ties or loses, your entry is eliminated from the pool.

    Picks are made straight up on the game and do not involve points spreads. We display spreads on the pick page for information only. A negative point spread by a team means that team is the favorite.

    The last entry standing wins the pool. In the case of a tie, the prize will be split. The pool can run all the way through the playoffs and Superbowl, if necessary. The winner(s) will be paid two weeks after the pool ends. Zathras & Wubba's King of the Hill Pool always pays out 100% of the entry fees* to the winner(s).

    A player may buy multiple entries. Each entry is $40.

    All picks must be made using our online entry system. If for some reason you are unable to use the online system we will accept picks via email or phone, provided they are received before the desired game starts.

    IMPORTANT info about deadlines!

    The final lockdown each week will be when the last game begins. Any entry with no pick when that last game starts will be eliminated!** Similarly, if the last game in which you have eligible teams starts, then you effectively have no teams to pick, and are eliminated. There is NO DEFAULT pick for this pool!!

    Once any game is under way, no more entries can pick that game. Any entries on those teams are locked in and cannot be changed, and are also made public at that point.

    What this means is that you can make (and change) picks right up until the game starts.

    Important disclaimer: Be advised that "Game Start" is approximate! Due to the timing of when various scripts run on our site as well as on the NFL sites we pull game data from, that if you wait to the very last second to make a pick, you risk getting locked out. You will not be able to make or change a pick on a game which is locked down, even if it appears that the game is still not yet started! No exceptions! You will have to pick a later game that has not yet been locked down!

    One of the effects of this new rule of course, is that no one will know the pick counts on each team until each game starts, so plan on checking in here on Sundays a few minutes after each group of games starts. We have live scoreboard updates and there's usually a few of us chatting and smack talking in the forums during the games.

    Once picks are locked down we do not make adjustments for any reason. We have had many people request a late adjustment from the default to some other team. However, we feel that in order to maintain the integrity of the pool, once we make the picks public, that the players in the pool should be able to depend on those as being final, and not discover picks have changed during the course of the day.

    Once the picks on a given game are locked down, you will be able to see everyone’s picks for that game. Select “Reports > Team Picks" from the dropdown menu under the pool title bar to see a pick summary by team. To see actual detail on what team each entry has picked, select the “Reports > Entry Picks” menu item. The entry counts will also display beside teams in the live scoreboard, which will show up automatically on the main pool page when games are under way.

    Game Cancellations/Postponements- if the NFL cancels or postpones a game (to a different week) within 36 hours of the deadline, we will handle as follows: Anyone who has selected the game prior to the cancellation announcement will receive a ‘bye’ that week for that entry. However, they must choose TWO winners the following week for that entry in order to survive. In order to be qualified for the 'bye', you must have selected the game prior to its announcement of being postponed. When you enter a pick, it timestamps who made the pick and the time it was made. Anyone who chooses a canceled game AFTER it has been publicly announced as canceled will receive the MNF visitor default. So, you should also be aware that if you change your pick, it will record when you did it. Anyone who picks a game which is postponed more than 36 hours before the deadline, and does not change it, will be eliminated.

    Please review the other posts here and in the General Information Forum for further details on how the pool system works, how to sign up, etc. For payment information see this post: How to pay your fees

    Our website now hosts many other pools, so make sure you are joining the right one! The direct link to Zathras & Wubba's King of the Hill Extreme Pool is http://www.zwpools.com/koth/pool.php?pid=116

    Make sure you check some of the other subforums as well for information specific to this year, such as our preseason pools, or just for some good old fashioned smack talk!


    *We run this as a hobby and nothing is taken out of the entry fees. The total prize pool will always be equal to the number of entries times $40. Since all of the fees wagered by participants are awarded to the participants, this pool meets the legal criteria of a “Sports pool not for profit” under ORC2915 and is therefore not in violation of Ohio’s gambling laws.



    **Special rule for week 1. Any entries with no pick made by the time the last game begins will be removed from the pool.
     
     

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    WHat happens when extreme gets all the way to playoffs? Are all playoff teams then available for all games - or only pick one team one time from remaining teams? Or do these usually payout before playoffs?
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregor View Post
    WHat happens when extreme gets all the way to playoffs? Are all playoff teams then available for all games - or only pick one team one time from remaining teams? Or do these usually payout before playoffs?

    yes, as stated in the 2nd paragraph.

    If the pool lasts into the postseason, then the restriction is lifted, and all teams are available for all entries to pick in all postseason weeks.
     
     

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    Sending payment tomorrow. Looking forward to a good season. Thanks Zathras & Wubbas for continuing to host!
     
     

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    In the pool, is it my responsibility to know that I picked a team previously or does the system lock that team out? asking because my teams from the previous week showed up on the pick list. Just curious so I didn't end up with a pick that doesn't count.
     
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by avery View Post
    In the pool, is it my responsibility to know that I picked a team previously or does the system lock that team out? asking because my teams from the previous week showed up on the pick list. Just curious so I didn't end up with a pick that doesn't count.
    Looks like you're in several pools and they have different rules. If the pool has the 'no repeats' option in play, then it won't let you pick a team you've already picked.
     
     

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